In pursuit more fat bike knowledge and experience I met up with Dan DeRuyter at Palisades Park this morning. He brought his Salsa Mukluk and I rode along on my Elephant sporting studded tires. Fortunately most the the trail we rode on had packed lines, along which I could navigate pretty well--as long as I stayed on the packed part. Dan could pretty much go where he wanted. I was jealous but I didn't say anything in front of the Elephant. Bikes have feelings, too, you know.